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		<title>By: Required Reading (or, Revisiting a Favourite Topic) at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-19546</link>
		<author>Required Reading (or, Revisiting a Favourite Topic) at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] time readers will recognize the idea from earlier Disruptive Thoughts discussions on said topic (and in advice to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Riya Did Wrong (or, Why Companies Should Respect The Commercialization Phase; or, How To Make Expensive Funding Cheap) at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-3927</link>
		<author>What Riya Did Wrong (or, Why Companies Should Respect The Commercialization Phase; or, How To Make Expensive Funding Cheap) at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-3927</guid>
		<description>[...] What Peter is describing is Riya working through the second stage for start-ups - commercialization: providing proof. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bridging the Equity Gap Faced By Early-Stage Companies at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-3903</link>
		<author>Bridging the Equity Gap Faced By Early-Stage Companies at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-3903</guid>
		<description>[...] If you&#8217;ve read Disruptive Thoughts for a while you know that this equity gap, and the opportunity it has created for early-stage invesetors, has been an area of interest for a number of months. In January I outlined a few reasons for the growing gap and the opportunity for investors who brought value to companies bridging the equity gap. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If you&#8217;ve read Disruptive Thoughts for a while you know that this equity gap, and the opportunity it has created for early-stage invesetors, has been an area of interest for a number of months. In January I outlined a few reasons for the growing gap and the opportunity for investors who brought value to companies bridging the equity gap. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Moving From Geek to Consumer: Fixing Web 2.0 Start-up Woes at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-3224</link>
		<author>Moving From Geek to Consumer: Fixing Web 2.0 Start-up Woes at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 04:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When the problem is geek the solution is simple: down-geek. How does a Web 2.0 venture do this? By paying attention to, and executing in, all three stages of a start-up: innovation, commercialization, and scale. Many companies, especially Web 2.0 plays, pay little-to-no attention to the second stage - commercialization. It&#8217;s this lack of focus, at a critical stage, that leads to failure. By refocusing attention and properly executing throughout this vital stage, Web 2.0 companies can avoid the problems that plague, and ultimately doom, Web 2.0s. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] When the problem is geek the solution is simple: down-geek. How does a Web 2.0 venture do this? By paying attention to, and executing in, all three stages of a start-up: innovation, commercialization, and scale. Many companies, especially Web 2.0 plays, pay little-to-no attention to the second stage - commercialization. It&#8217;s this lack of focus, at a critical stage, that leads to failure. By refocusing attention and properly executing throughout this vital stage, Web 2.0 companies can avoid the problems that plague, and ultimately doom, Web 2.0s. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Incubating Ideas: Yes, and&#8230; at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-72</link>
		<author>Incubating Ideas: Yes, and&#8230; at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the first stage of a start-up, Phase I Innovation is an ideal place to implement &#8220;Yes, and&#8230;&#8221; idea incubation. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Advisory Capital? Not When VCs Do It Better at Disruptive Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-61</link>
		<author>Advisory Capital? Not When VCs Do It Better at Disruptive Thoughts</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why can&#8217;t an innovative VC firm compete, and gain a competitive advantage by realizing this trend in tech start-ups and adjust their service offering to fill the gap? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Why can&#8217;t an innovative VC firm compete, and gain a competitive advantage by realizing this trend in tech start-ups and adjust their service offering to fill the gap? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Popov</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-39</link>
		<author>Daniel Popov</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraser, sorry for the long pause - was swamped at work.

what you say is true, no doubt.  What makes me think is not the relative importance of marketing vs. development (crudely put) but rather whether some sectors/IT products demand a tightly-knit development team and the attempts to 'de-knit' such a team, be it through the use of outsourcing, offshoring or using open-source software, may be deleterious on the innovative capacity of these firms.  I am curious to find out whether startups really feel a competitive pressure to get their costs further down and are thus embracing new product development (and potentially business) models.  An 'incubator-VC' may be important here - but has that not happened already?  We know that there is a lot of money chasing few deals (a lot of e-buzz about that) - in that case we should see the VCs trying to differentiate themselves and providing a more hands-on help to startups would be just the answer.  Has that happened? I do not know enough (comments welcome here) but if it has not then it is b/c the VC does not see value in that (nor the startup, for that matter, or else there would be a demand)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraser, sorry for the long pause - was swamped at work.</p>
<p>what you say is true, no doubt.  What makes me think is not the relative importance of marketing vs. development (crudely put) but rather whether some sectors/IT products demand a tightly-knit development team and the attempts to &#8216;de-knit&#8217; such a team, be it through the use of outsourcing, offshoring or using open-source software, may be deleterious on the innovative capacity of these firms.  I am curious to find out whether startups really feel a competitive pressure to get their costs further down and are thus embracing new product development (and potentially business) models.  An &#8216;incubator-VC&#8217; may be important here - but has that not happened already?  We know that there is a lot of money chasing few deals (a lot of e-buzz about that) - in that case we should see the VCs trying to differentiate themselves and providing a more hands-on help to startups would be just the answer.  Has that happened? I do not know enough (comments welcome here) but if it has not then it is b/c the VC does not see value in that (nor the startup, for that matter, or else there would be a demand)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Popov</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101321</link>
		<author>Daniel Popov</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101321</guid>
		<description>Fraser, sorry for the long pause - was swamped at work.  what you say is true, no doubt.  What makes me think is not the relative importance of marketing vs. development (crudely put) but rather whether some sectors/IT products demand a tightly-knit development team and the attempts to 'de-knit' such a team, be it through the use of outsourcing, offshoring or using open-source software, may be deleterious on the innovative capacity of these firms.  I am curious to find out whether startups really feel a competitive pressure to get their costs further down and are thus embracing new product development (and potentially business) models.  An 'incubator-VC' may be important here - but has that not happened already?  We know that there is a lot of money chasing few deals (a lot of e-buzz about that) - in that case we should see the VCs trying to differentiate themselves and providing a more hands-on help to startups would be just the answer.  Has that happened? I do not know enough (comments welcome here) but if it has not then it is b/c the VC does not see value in that (nor the startup, for that matter, or else there would be a demand) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraser, sorry for the long pause - was swamped at work.  what you say is true, no doubt.  What makes me think is not the relative importance of marketing vs. development (crudely put) but rather whether some sectors/IT products demand a tightly-knit development team and the attempts to &#8216;de-knit&#8217; such a team, be it through the use of outsourcing, offshoring or using open-source software, may be deleterious on the innovative capacity of these firms.  I am curious to find out whether startups really feel a competitive pressure to get their costs further down and are thus embracing new product development (and potentially business) models.  An &#8216;incubator-VC&#8217; may be important here - but has that not happened already?  We know that there is a lot of money chasing few deals (a lot of e-buzz about that) - in that case we should see the VCs trying to differentiate themselves and providing a more hands-on help to startups would be just the answer.  Has that happened? I do not know enough (comments welcome here) but if it has not then it is b/c the VC does not see value in that (nor the startup, for that matter, or else there would be a demand)</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-35</link>
		<author>Fraser</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 02:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-35</guid>
		<description>Looking forward: DK, you touch on it a bit with your "incubators are unsuccessful, likely for many reasons" thought. I'll explore that when my brain finishes cycling on it, but that's exactly why I've used "incubator-like" throughout my post/comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward: DK, you touch on it a bit with your &#8220;incubators are unsuccessful, likely for many reasons&#8221; thought. I&#8217;ll explore that when my brain finishes cycling on it, but that&#8217;s exactly why I&#8217;ve used &#8220;incubator-like&#8221; throughout my post/comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-34</link>
		<author>Fraser</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 01:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-34</guid>
		<description>Hi Daniel, 

Your two comments have had me thinking over the past few days - thank you for sharing your views and insights. I appreciate the amount of thought you've provided me with.

I'm going to talk about your other comment in a future post but I want to touch on a few things with respect to the comment you left above.

To clarify, these two posts weren't focused solely on consumer-centric internet applications. The  ideas presented throughout them are intended to address venture capital, innovation, and commercialization across a wide range of industry. (It just happens that a lot of discussion occurs online around web applications, and the sources were easier to find. If anything the arguement is not faulty. At fault is a lazy author who was too excited to get an evolving thought out of his head and into a presentable form --- I should have spent more time finding examples in a variety of industry)

You're right that there needs to be a balance between technological innovation and marketing. I don't believe that one is of a higher importance than the other. You can't get very far broadcasting a great message about a lousy product. You can't get very far hiding a great technological innovation in your closet. The two need to go hand in hand and are of equal importance. Innovation, commercialization, and marketing are all critical when introducing a new product.

A big aim of the incubator-like atmosphere should be finding solutions for labour intensive processes. Whether through outsourcing to offshore centres or a local shop down the street, a VC could provide a well managed relationship that can easily be tapped into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel, </p>
<p>Your two comments have had me thinking over the past few days - thank you for sharing your views and insights. I appreciate the amount of thought you&#8217;ve provided me with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to talk about your other comment in a future post but I want to touch on a few things with respect to the comment you left above.</p>
<p>To clarify, these two posts weren&#8217;t focused solely on consumer-centric internet applications. The  ideas presented throughout them are intended to address venture capital, innovation, and commercialization across a wide range of industry. (It just happens that a lot of discussion occurs online around web applications, and the sources were easier to find. If anything the arguement is not faulty. At fault is a lazy author who was too excited to get an evolving thought out of his head and into a presentable form &#8212; I should have spent more time finding examples in a variety of industry)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that there needs to be a balance between technological innovation and marketing. I don&#8217;t believe that one is of a higher importance than the other. You can&#8217;t get very far broadcasting a great message about a lousy product. You can&#8217;t get very far hiding a great technological innovation in your closet. The two need to go hand in hand and are of equal importance. Innovation, commercialization, and marketing are all critical when introducing a new product.</p>
<p>A big aim of the incubator-like atmosphere should be finding solutions for labour intensive processes. Whether through outsourcing to offshore centres or a local shop down the street, a VC could provide a well managed relationship that can easily be tapped into.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101320</link>
		<author>Fraser</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 01:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101320</guid>
		<description>Looking forward: DK, you touch on it a bit with your "incubators are unsuccessful, likely for many reasons" thought. I'll explore that when my brain finishes cycling on it, but that's exactly why I've used "incubator-like" throughout my post/comments. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward: DK, you touch on it a bit with your &#8220;incubators are unsuccessful, likely for many reasons&#8221; thought. I&#8217;ll explore that when my brain finishes cycling on it, but that&#8217;s exactly why I&#8217;ve used &#8220;incubator-like&#8221; throughout my post/comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101319</link>
		<author>Fraser</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-101319</guid>
		<description>Hi Daniel,   Your two comments have had me thinking over the past few days - thank you for sharing your views and insights. I appreciate the amount of thought you've provided me with.  I'm going to talk about your other comment in a future post but I want to touch on a few things with respect to the comment you left above.  To clarify, these two posts weren't focused solely on consumer-centric internet applications. The  ideas presented throughout them are intended to address venture capital, innovation, and commercialization across a wide range of industry. (It just happens that a lot of discussion occurs online around web applications, and the sources were easier to find. If anything the arguement is not faulty. At fault is a lazy author who was too excited to get an evolving thought out of his head and into a presentable form --- I should have spent more time finding examples in a variety of industry)  You're right that there needs to be a balance between technological innovation and marketing. I don't believe that one is of a higher importance than the other. You can't get very far broadcasting a great message about a lousy product. You can't get very far hiding a great technological innovation in your closet. The two need to go hand in hand and are of equal importance. Innovation, commercialization, and marketing are all critical when introducing a new product.  A big aim of the incubator-like atmosphere should be finding solutions for labour intensive processes. Whether through outsourcing to offshore centres or a local shop down the street, a VC could provide a well managed relationship that can easily be tapped into. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,   Your two comments have had me thinking over the past few days - thank you for sharing your views and insights. I appreciate the amount of thought you&#8217;ve provided me with.  I&#8217;m going to talk about your other comment in a future post but I want to touch on a few things with respect to the comment you left above.  To clarify, these two posts weren&#8217;t focused solely on consumer-centric internet applications. The  ideas presented throughout them are intended to address venture capital, innovation, and commercialization across a wide range of industry. (It just happens that a lot of discussion occurs online around web applications, and the sources were easier to find. If anything the arguement is not faulty. At fault is a lazy author who was too excited to get an evolving thought out of his head and into a presentable form &#8212; I should have spent more time finding examples in a variety of industry)  You&#8217;re right that there needs to be a balance between technological innovation and marketing. I don&#8217;t believe that one is of a higher importance than the other. You can&#8217;t get very far broadcasting a great message about a lousy product. You can&#8217;t get very far hiding a great technological innovation in your closet. The two need to go hand in hand and are of equal importance. Innovation, commercialization, and marketing are all critical when introducing a new product.  A big aim of the incubator-like atmosphere should be finding solutions for labour intensive processes. Whether through outsourcing to offshore centres or a local shop down the street, a VC could provide a well managed relationship that can easily be tapped into.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Popov</title>
		<link>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-33</link>
		<author>Daniel Popov</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://disruptivethoughts.com/2006/01/30/37/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>I just posted a long piece on the earlier post by Fraser.  His post today is an excellent elucidation of the earlier idea.  In light of what I argue in my response to the earlier piece - is there not an over-focus on 'marketing' as opposed to 'technological innovation'?  This goes to the core of what we consider 'innovation' - constructing new ways for the consumer to utilize the internet is extremely important.  Yet it remains only one of the many different forms of innovation and it may not be the one that is the most 'productivity enhancing' or, simply put, 'profitable'.  

Why are we ignoring the sort of innovation where the bulk of effort goes to the programming at the beginning and the marketing is secondary?  My earlier post noted that 'security, firewalls and encryption software' is a major and growing segment of the US software start-up industry.  Here, a startup would need much more of the 'incubator support' at the first stage rather than the verification and scaling of product.

Not to belabour the point, but isnt this where the subject of offshoring may come in again?  If the startup process is 'labour intensive', with large code-writing requirements, then this is where part of the incubator function for the VC could be to facilitate linking the US startup with a (propriotary?) offshoring center thus significantly reducing the development costs (if this break-up of the development process is carefully managed)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted a long piece on the earlier post by Fraser.  His post today is an excellent elucidation of the earlier idea.  In light of what I argue in my response to the earlier piece - is there not an over-focus on &#8216;marketing&#8217; as opposed to &#8216;technological innovation&#8217;?  This goes to the core of what we consider &#8216;innovation&#8217; - constructing new ways for the consumer to utilize the internet is extremely important.  Yet it remains only one of the many different forms of innovation and it may not be the one that is the most &#8216;productivity enhancing&#8217; or, simply put, &#8216;profitable&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Why are we ignoring the sort of innovation where the bulk of effort goes to the programming at the beginning and the marketing is secondary?  My earlier post noted that &#8217;security, firewalls and encryption software&#8217; is a major and growing segment of the US software start-up industry.  Here, a startup would need much more of the &#8216;incubator support&#8217; at the first stage rather than the verification and scaling of product.</p>
<p>Not to belabour the point, but isnt this where the subject of offshoring may come in again?  If the startup process is &#8216;labour intensive&#8217;, with large code-writing requirements, then this is where part of the incubator function for the VC could be to facilitate linking the US startup with a (propriotary?) offshoring center thus significantly reducing the development costs (if this break-up of the development process is carefully managed)</p>
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